There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Thanks so much in advance!! Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. But some of the most popular recent kitchens on Houzz tell a different story, Whether light and breezy or rich and moody, these wood-rich kitchens might make you rethink painted cabinets, If you favor a little color in your kitchen, look to these spaces that run the gamut from light to dark, See how the most popular kitchen cabinet color effortlessly supports a variety of inviting design features, Tired of white? Here are some of my samples. Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. The pillow is from our sofa. If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. Then the installer goes over it a second time causing lap marks or white lines. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. Ha. Thank you. In this video, Joe demonstrates how to use Bona NordicSeal to achieve a whitewashed look in a hardwood floor. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? It is engineered 7 - to be finished on site. Look out for inexperience. How 'cheap' do you want to go with something that important? You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. Which one did you end up going with? Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. Double cost any standard stained finish. I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. After looking into the flooring situation I found that if a wood floor person says "it won't hold up in Florida" theirs won't! The finish guy said he put on 1.5 gal on the first coat of TrafficHD. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. Taj Mahal is an example of a crystalline Quartzite. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. Milesi or Renner, etc etc. If you are someone who loves the look of the 'raw floor' but you HATE the hazy look of NaturalSeal, then I HIGHLY recommend going with the satin. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. The wood is from Cochrans Lumber in Berryville, VA. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. White streaks in floor. Apply and wipe off excess. You should look it up. The water-based products are also much easier to work with. My tub with quartz top. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. Absolutely love the matte finish. Mega turns yellow. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? How to best deal with prominent railings in split level home, Durability of white macabus quartzite vs. quartz. My vanity with Corian and porcelain sink. The floors are super dusty in this photo as the soffits were just removed. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Imagine if that would have been quartz? Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. Any help appreciated! Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. We used 1 coat Bona Nordic and 2 coats Traffic HD in Satin. He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. Try this color if you want a darker shade. My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. 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Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. white oak floors, stain them or leave natural? Of course the MORE coats you put on today.the FEWER coats you have to ADD in 15 years time (called a buff and coat and costs $3/sf on average). It is the single most abused/used FINISH ('finish' means 'pretty) in your home. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. My cabinets are a true white (forgot name of paint) and all of the Dekton with a white background was too gray. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? Then the next day a coat of finish. 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". Absolutely love the matte finish. Nice, eh?! But I miss a slightly shiny floor. Over the years, theres been a lot of things Ive cut costs on, but I feel it doesnt pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. Milesi Natural 2k? For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. Hi M, thank you! I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). Some of us dont have either the budget or access to a multitude of cabinet makers so trying to work with them on getting the desired finish. It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. The one that Bona advertizes as clear made our wood look a tiny bit orange. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? I didnt want to pull up the protective paper but you can see the floor a little better in this photo. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. @Jonathan Margareten- I read through my old post, and am not sure if thats what we ended up doing. It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. :), Absolutely gorgeous. This is what G & S was responding to.a quick scan of your answer (I'm guilty of it myself some times) can give the impression that everything was done same day (which it wasn'tbecause I asked about the LAST coatnot the timeline to reach last coat). Right? MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. @Bongo. William Smith, D.D., was Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. Very patient. As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. A hint of tan. Great photos and beautiful floors! ! Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. It may come in other thicknesses too. So hand rail and newl postadvice would be appreciated! Is the Nordic still a problem? They are not even good choices for low care floors. The cost of the floors and Bona sealer plus 3 protective coats was almost twice the price that my parents paid for the house I grew up in so be prepared to gasp and clutch your wallet. These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. I will mention some Quartzites have a higher level of porosity and should be sealed regularly. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, These design moves will add even more to white kitchen cabinets appeal, Find out the most popular countertop, flooring, cabinet, backsplash and paint picks among homeowners who are renovating, Neutrals still dominate cabinet color. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. That doesn't sound like what you are after. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. I also read you dont want to go too thin. I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. Any suggestions would be great. wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean). Not the best lighting. Thanks again! is the only way to go. I asked him to bring natural finish tomorrow, Im torn between natural and classic. I need to see the seal samples still but Ill post a picture of the finished floors in a week! WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. Get ready for a LONG story! Buyer beware, you should be nervous. I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). professional finishes are sold in gallons only. did you have a contract or at least an email stating you wanted white oak? It could be as low as $2/sf. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. Why did you decide to go with Corian? Im happy with the color. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. It will make the white oak whiter. Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. Nice when a risk pays off . I was asked two separate questions. I answered them in order. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? The floor guys made custom floor vents. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? The cost is nothing compared to the durability it will give. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. Thank you for your input. Anything over 700 square feet for me is done in multiple days. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. Sigh. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. I screwed that up a few times. BTW -/ we learned that the color of the wood is different and takes the sealer or stain differently depending on where it is from. He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. DH wants to just go with light maple cabinets and I am tempted. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. Thanks! I didn't choose the Nordic because I thought the white pigment made it look unnatural. I told the contractor, if he could remove the first-coat finish, I would purchase the right finish for him to use. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. 3 coats in one day. Look forward to more pictures. Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. We told the company to put 3 coats of the Bona product on the floors. They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. @tkgriff Love the floor. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. Whaaaaat???? I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. I have read so many wood floor horror stories. Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. I think we found a good match. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. Yes. less. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. Due to it's ingredients, It is mainly used for custom color mixes with dyes and Bona's sport paint line for insane color schemes. In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. Let's see how long this finish last. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. Which means something is sitting on, grinding down, pressing into or just plain 'sitting on' your floors every second of every day. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? I also have some design software that may help with your need. If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). Here is a link of various lighting for At Ease (it's not shiny at all).
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