Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. The results are shown below. We never did figure out how big those groups werebecause we couldnt keep five shots on an 8.5x11-inch target.Something was very wrong, so we packed up and did some investigation. 0000022062 00000 n 0000009347 00000 n This setup is inherently more stable than a bipod, as it allows the gun to slide smoothly under recoil, and the wedge let us adjust elevation simply by sliding it in or out from the buttstock. 0000087437 00000 n Im thinking about buying a LWRC 224 Valkrie when it gets here. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? An innovative way to carry your backup gun. Learn more and buy today. Sierras data covers the broad range of its extensive product line, and Federals recipes are limited but appear somewhat more aggressive. Moving on to the 88-grain ELD MATCH rounds, we decided to change from IMR 8208 to Hodgdon Varget. All seated to 2.25. The 22-inch, stainless steel barrel includes a medium-contour, 1:7 twist, full-length flutes and is threaded to hold a muzzle brake or suppressor. 4 . Sierra has published loads for a broad range of bullet weights from 52 grains all the way up to 95 grains. We took a cartridge that offers less wind drift, drop and recoil and added the accuracy and consistency that made Hornady famous! CFE-223: Subscribe: 2662: Remarks: COAL (inches): 2.140; 5-shot 100-yard group (inches): 1.75 77: Nosler Custom Competition: Hodgdon: In addition to this, powder capacity is sacrificed to accommodate the long bullet, which reduces velocity. | But they are still a place to start. : 40,800 49,900 Hodgdon C 50 gr BK (Sierra) 0.224" Powder: H335 (Hodgdon) Primer: FED 205m Case: FED Trim Length: 1.590" C.O.L. At this time, only Federal and Sierra have published load data for the .224 Valkyrie. Looks nearly identical to the .223 Ackley Improved. 0000013501 00000 n 0000100751 00000 n While new load data will continue to be updated on Hodgdons Reloading Data Center, this new 224 Valkyriedata is available immediately at www.HodgdonReloading.com. For this review, I borrowed two additional rifles that are prototypes from a major American manufacturer. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For the life of us, we couldnt find a factory load that would stay inside of 3 MOA. Guys on the facebook page "Valkyrie Ascending Reloading" have convinced me to switch from . /wp-content/uploads/2017/12/winchester-logo-redv2.png. 0000022266 00000 n All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Ultimate Reloader is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. Whether such an arm would crowd out the .223 or 22-250 Remingtons is a question that can be only answered in the marketplace. Journey to Find a .223 Rem F-Class Load. 0000042357 00000 n 0000031612 00000 n With a slower round that's dropping faster, 25 yards of error in range estimation could be the difference between a hit and a miss with asteeper, rainbow-style trajectory. Here is Rowland's account of how he developed a .223 Rem load. Weighing a sample, we found them to be exceptionally consistent with just a weight variance of +/- 1 grain from the median weight of 114 grains. 85 Nosler RDF with 24.2 grains CFE-223: 200 = 1.52 200 = 1.68 (Both groups show promise. 0000035400 00000 n At Hodgdon, weve been researching this cartridge since before its introduction and are excited to release load data for the Valkyrie featuring powders like Hodgdon CFE 223, IMR 8208 XBRand Hodgdon Varget. This data is available for 80 different loads, featuring 50- to 90-grain bullet options (from Hornady, Nosler, Federal, Swift and Sierra) and powders from Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester. Varget 24.3 was a 1+- moa, 24.8 opened it up to 1.5. Picking the rifle up after this development, I quickly realized how valuable it would be at slinging V-Max bullets at prairie dogs and groundhogs. Starting with the 60-grain V-Max loads, we fired our five-round groups and hit a node at 26.9 grains, giving us a group that measured just inside of an inch. (Above) The new Starline .224 Valkyrie cases were checked for length with a digital caliper, and were right at the trim length, ready for loading. IHFarmer07 Gunny Sergeant. However, one thing is for sure: The AR-15 platform is incredibly versatile, and rounds like the 224 Valkyrie only enhance its potential. Note the uniform primer pocket and flash hole. Toggle menu . A lot of recent cartridge and rifle development has been geared to long-range shooting. (Of course, what is considered long range means different things to different shooters). This is my favorite powder for .223 Rem & 224 Valkyrie. A very economical American Eagle load with a 75-grain FMJ bullet is available for blasting ammo, and the varmint hunter is covered with a Nosler 60-grain Ballistic Tip load. The 224 Valkyrie does not have a dedicated magazine yet. INDICATES MAXIMUM LOAD USE WITH CAUTION Ri e Data 224Vea lki yr 30 1.3307.256.256.4031.4207.049.358 .200.422 1.2033 1.600 224Va ek i yrl Ri e . "Shooting heavier . 88 gr ELD Match able to engage . I used primers common to reloaders of similar sized cases, i.e., Federal No. However, Lane easily duplicated the ballistics of factory-loaded ammunition. This data is available for 80 different loads featuring 50- to 90-grain bullet options (from Hornady, Nosler, Federal, Swift and Sierra) and powders from Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester. 0000017843 00000 n Almost 100fps faster to. 0000035495 00000 n Necks were of uniform thickness, and cases didnt lengthen much at all over the testing program. Introduced by Federal in 2017 and approved by SAAMI in 2018, the new 224 Valkyriehas been quickly adopted by long-range shooters. At this point, Chris and I scratched our heads and sent the 88-grain loads downrange to see just how far the rabbit hole went. Shooting heavier bullets, in an AR-platform rifle, that maintain supersonic speeds beyond 1,300 yards has captured the interest of shooters and handloaders everywhere, says Ron Reiber, Hodgdon product manager and ballistician. It meters good and gives good velocity, if I was cranking out hundreds of rounds of AR type blaster ammo I wouldn't hesitate to use it. If I find anything better than I already posted I will add it. If you own an AR, youve probably heard of the hot, new .224 Valkyrie cartridge. The author was able to meter each throw to within 0.1 of a grain. In today's episode of "I Carry," we have a Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Metal pistol with a Holosun EPS Red2 red-dot sight carried in a KSG Armory Lexington IWB holster. 0000087166 00000 n While new load data will continue to be updated on Hodgdons Reloading Data Center, this new 224 Valkyriedata is available immediately at www.HodgdonReloading.com. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. While theyre not geared to the long-range crowd, they are light enough to be toted over hill and dale by varmint hunters, and theyd sure be a prairie dog or coyotes worst nightmare. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. Use load data at your own risk. Give a Gift Varget hits the sweet spot for the best performance in this cartridge.. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js'; Just a few weeks later, I found myself at the E.R. They were easy to decap while resizing, but you must remove the crimp before you can reprime them. The .223 is limited by powder capacity, but not the usual 7- to 9-inch twists. All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. My first pick was IMR 8208, as I have always had good luck using it to push heavy .224-inch bullets down a barrel. 80.5's still have some possibilities with small changes. 0000097257 00000 n The company distributes gunpowder under the Hodgdon, IMR, Winchester and Goex brands. SAFETY DATA SHEET GET RELOADING DATA January 29 . Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. .224 Valkyrie vs 6.8 SPC Some writers have described the Valkyrie as a "scaled down Creedmoor." However, the Valkyrie case is derived from a slightly shortened 6.8 SPC case, necked-down to .22 caliber. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Again, the Sierra 65-grain SBT shot great, at .66 inch. I shot three, five-shot groups with each load in each rifle from my indoor shooting building. Hodgdon Trail Boss: Is it Useful for Modern Sporting Rifles? Concluding our test-firing, we found a node at 23.4 grains that produced an adequate group measuring just outside of 1 MOA. These features include a longer neck, a shoulder thats pushed back a bit, and rifle chambers with longer throats. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. Hodgdon Releases 224 Valkyrie Data Hodgdon, the Brand That's True , is pleased to announce the launch of load data for the new 224 Valkyrie cartridge, now available on Hodgdon's Reloading Data Center at www.HodgdonReloading.com. If youre considering a .224 Valkyrie, youre in luck Sierra Bullets has just released comprehensive LOAD DATA for this new cartridge. Our takeaway for the Valkyrie handloading project is that this is a very viable and interesting round for handloaders. Unfortunately you wont achieve much accuracy without consistent velocity. I set about acquiring an AR-style and a bolt-action rifle chambered for the new cartridge so that I could work up some handloads. Metering it is effortless and very consistent. Installing the RISE Armament right at our shooting bench went without a hitch and allowed for better trigger control during shooting. The rest of the process typified reloading any other bottlenecked rifle case. Plus, Valkyrie chamber specs are carefully matched in rifle chambers to enhance accuracy potential. 0000001896 00000 n The 224 Valkyrie does not have a dedicated magazine yet. The powder measures very well and consistently. 0000008463 00000 n var _gaq = _gaq || []; For our heavy target round, the new Hornady 88-grain ELD MATCH bullet piqued my interest, and I was excited to have an opportunity to do some work with it.We contacted Hornady for the projectiles and reached out to RCBS for a pair of these scarce dies. Overall, these are very respectable results for sportier-weight rifles. With the 90 to 95 grain bullets, the little Valkyrie can give 6mm match cartridges a real run for their money offering similar ballistics with less recoil. Sierra offers several heavy .22-caliber match bullets, including the 90-grain MatchKing HPBT that Federal loads in its match ammo. 0000098366 00000 n I have loaded a fair bit of it in .223. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. From affordable target practice to home defense, there isn't much that cannot be done with this rifle. This substance is a mild lubricant that should be removed from the inside of the case necks before loading. Range temperatures were 72 to 93 degrees F.5. 0000035008 00000 n 0000048231 00000 n Both are similar bolt actions and have 22-inch barrels. The different brands of brass weighed almost exactly the same, so I didnt need to adjust charge weights to accommodate capacity differences. What seating depth is actually doingactual node or just pass/fail? 0000100071 00000 n *j. To this day, it is still my go-to service rifle loading for reduced course matches. I concentrated mostly on the heavier bullets, as per Federals model. It meters smoothly, it is superbly accurate, and it limits jacket fouling. 0000080640 00000 n The new round, the .224 Valkyrie has had a few starts and fits in its birthing, but it finally seems to be flying high, like its namesake. 0000030982 00000 n 0000003101 00000 n However, a standard 6.8 SPC mag is recommended and will function without any issue. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Although chilly, we weren't discouraged, as the early hours brought calm to the usual windy conditions on this particular range. A Luth-AR buttstock with adjustable LOP and comb height and 15-inch M-Lok forend were added. Just an armorers wrench and a torque wrench were needed to make the swap. Reaching a speed where the round will staystabilized past 800 yards is a challenge. Basically a 6.8 SPC necked down to .22, the Valkyrie has a shorter case than the .223 Remington (and 5.5645 NATO). Let me know how the 8202 works I have that on hand and its performed well the Nosler 80s custom competition. 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Subscriber Services. Looking it over, we found a dozen different powders that we can load with, and staring at me were two of my favorites. Graciously, the company supplied me with one for testing and I left with it that day. Love the quick shipping from . 80.5 Bergers & 85 Nosler RDF with CFE-223, Re: 80.5 Bergers & 85 Nosler RDF with CFE-223, Quote from: 1000 yrd guy on August 08, 2019, 04:13:28 AM, Quote from: Alaska_guy on August 12, 2019, 12:27:46 PM, Quote from: igotta40 on August 28, 2019, 10:29:49 PM. Federal spent considerable time and energy developing a smaller cartridge to duplicate (and even improve upon) the Creedmoors impressive ballistics. And, since the Valkyries maximum overall cartridge length is 2.26 inches, it fits comfortably in the ubiquitous AR-15 platforma major plus. About the .224 Valkyrie Cartridge. Learn more about the brands at these websites www.Hodgdon.com, www.IMRPowder.com, www.WWPowder.com or www.GoexPowder.com and connect with the Hodgdon brand on Facebook or YouTube. 0000096632 00000 n Federal Premium initially offered 60-, 75-, and 90-grain offerings to cover a variety of hunting and target applications. I know some sort by brass and projectiles to get as consistent as possible, I am just not one of those people. _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-6323545-2']); Starline Brass and the author accept no responsibility for use of the data in this article. The .224 valkyrie should be a better choice with heavier bullets since it is shorter and will allow longer OAL with the longer bullets. I set a Trijicon AccuPoint 2.5-12.5x 42mm scope in Precision Hardcore Gear Black Opps 30mm rings for testing. You need a 6.8 SPC mag for this. (Above) Test handloads were prepared with RCBS dies. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. Starline and Hornady are also offering .224 Valkyrie, so I obtained 50 pieces of Starline brass and several boxes of Hornady ELD-Match ammo. Is this the kind of information anyone here is interested in? New Starline cases are treated with a corrosion inhibitor. The author uses C Products Defense magazines as they are always true to spec and allow for an overall length of up to 2.270 inches. In the future, I may do some work with one to seewhat the best-possible accuracy and range can be had out of this cartridge.Only time will tell what our 224 Valkyrie handloads will do. Interesting data. Their availability will certainly contribute to the successful Flight of the Valkyrie. A database of .224 Valkyrie handloads. I measured the neck thickness at five points around the neck with an RCBS ball micrometer and averaged the results for each case for its measurement. The resulting average neck thickness of all 50 cases was .0139 inch, with an extreme spread of .0014 inch. The biggest bonus I have from this is the amount of load data out there that is available. : 2.110" Powder: 25.9 gr 28.2 gr Vel. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Established in 1947 by Bruce and Amy Hodgdon, today, sons JB and Bob have grown Hodgdon Powder Company into the largest US supplier of smokeless, blackpowder and blackpowder substitute propellants. We began zeroing and immediately realized something was off. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. At Hodgdon, weve been researching this cartridge since before its introduction and are excited to release load data for the Valkyrie featuring powders like Hodgdon CFE 223, IMR 8208 XBRand Hodgdon Varget. You are using an out of date browser. One case had an ES of 0.000 no variation. Login with username, password and session length. 0000099588 00000 n The RL15 sucked at 25.4 with 3 moa, the upped charge at 25.9 grouped it at around 1 moa+-. August 16, 2018 By G&A Online Editors. Good stuff, I have my hands on a couple boxes of Nosler 85s and have been wanting to test them I also have 6.5 twist , I will give them a try. Communism only made one thing that works, and capitalism can make it even better. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. Full Member. I have used Starline cases in numerous cartridges for years and have been impressed with their performance and uniformity. I still had to use the RCBS Trim Mate crimp remover so the primers could be properly seated later without damage. I was able to duplicate factory velocities without any problems; however, I have no way of measuring pressures, so use the data cautiously, i.e., reduce start loads at least 5 percent. 0000006041 00000 n 0000049698 00000 n The other is a 22-inch tube that is threaded and profiled to replace the factory barrel of my CZ-USA Model 527 bolt-action rifle thats chambered for the 7.62x39mm. 0000022543 00000 n Starline Brass is well known for its large selection of pistol cases, and now offers over 40 rifle cases. After a quick swap, we headed back to the range and duplicated our test parameters. Lol! The new rounds maximum case length is 1.600 inches, as compared to the 6.8s case length of 1.686 inches. I selected 50 new, unfired Starline .224 Valkyrie cases, and measured their lengths with a digital caliber to 0.0005 inch, weights with an RCBS Charge Master 1500 electronic scale to 0.1 grain, and neck-wall thickness with a Hornady digital caliper to .0005 inch. These features allow long, skinny bullets to be seated out further, so they will not intrude into precious powder space. Hodgdon, the Brand Thats True, is pleased to announce the launch of load data for the new 224 Valkyriecartridge, now available on Hodgdons Reloading Data Center at www.HodgdonReloading.com. Federal Premium drove it home with the 224 Valkyrie at the 2018 SHOT Show, and a number of barrel manufacturers quickly started churning out barrels chambered in this overnight success. ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? This was our thinking behind choosing the 88-grain ELD MATCH projectile. As you can see in the performance chart, I test-fired factory ammo and handloads topped with only the heavier .22-caliber bullets. While it can accept bullets up to 90 grains in weight, they often need to be seated so long that they cannotfit inside an AR-15 magazine. At 26.9 grains of CFE223, the author found his best load with the 60-grain V-Max. Uniform components are very important for accurate handloads, and Starline cases demonstrated their quality, both on the range and in their empirical measurements. Varget hits the sweet spot for the best performance in this cartridge.. We installed this drop-in trigger in minutes right at the bench and were just about ready to go.We rested our build on a Champion V-Bag in the front and a Champion Wedge Bag in the rear. Benelli Lupo Bolt-Action Rifle Line Expanded with New Chamberings, 11 Top Hunting Rifles Chambered in .350 Legend, Top 10 6.5 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, Savage Impulse Big Game Straight-Pull Bolt-Action Rifle: Full Review, Mossberg Patriot Long-Range Hunter Bolt-Action Rifle: Full Review, Remington .50-70 Rolling Block History: New York's Pick to Arm Its National Guard, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. Because I was reloading for an autoloader, I chose to full-length size every case to ensure it would function reliably. I tried wiping off excess lube before sizing and removed too much on one case and it seized in the sizer die. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. Most critically, case length (base to mouth) is short enough to allow loading super-sleek, high-BC bullets with long, fine-entry ogives. 0000002321 00000 n HW[o7~_ D Here's the specifics for this load: (this is a MAX load) Case: New Starline 224 Valkyrie Cases. _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', '.accurateshooter.com']); 0000056500 00000 n 0000030592 00000 n While new load data will continue to be updated on Hodgdon's Reloading Data Center, the new 224 Valkyrie data is available at www.HodgdonReloading.com. A faster barrel will certainly help. 0000098105 00000 n But the Nolser 55- and 60-grain Ballistic Tips also shot great. Up until recently, the only means to send a heavy .224-inch bullet was to either single-load or run it out of a bolt gun. While new load data will continue to be updated, there is currently data for 80 different loads with bullet weights ranging from 50 to 90 grains from Federal, Hornady, Nosler, Sierra and Swift, and powders from Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester. A critical marksmanship skill that is easy to overlook. My intent is to provide basic reloading information for a specific barrel length and type without providing information overload. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Those loads have factory-rated muzzle velocities of 3,300 fps, 3,000 fps, 2,700 fps, and 2,700 fps respectively. Rifle #1 has a standard SAAMI-spec throat, but the throat on Rifle #2 is cut a little shorter so that it provides a .010-inch bullet jump for the Sierra 90-grain MK factory ammo. Introduced by Federal 2017 and approved by SAAMI in 2018, the new 224 Valkyrie has been quickly adopted by long-range shooters. Notes:1. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s); 0000042977 00000 n Introduced by Federal in 2017 and approved by SAAMI in 2018, the new 224 Valkyrie has been quickly adopted by long-range shooters. About Hodgdon Powder Company, Inc. : 3,285 3,533 Press. A more compact version of the classic Hi Power design. 0000096939 00000 n Along with 308. I tried a slew of powders, but heres the bottom lineHodgdons CFE 223 was the hands down winner in both rifles. 0000080878 00000 n This is where ballistic coefficient is king. 0000030317 00000 n But IMR-8208XBR did very well with varmint-weight bullets. Although 100-yard results arent mind-blowing, this round will still outperform others at distance, because it is less susceptible to wind drift. JavaScript is disabled. 0000022446 00000 n Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. Serious handloaders know the importance of quality cases for accurate ammo. Amp up your AK with these exciting accessories. The .224 Valkyrie has spawned a crop of new high-tech bullets that add significantly to the potential of the cartridge, to help it achieve its lofty goals. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. (I fully admit that shooter error is a potential factor.) Available in 1 lb. The good ones are the aforementioned steel from PRI. I never had to trim one over the course of testing, something I cant say about other brands of .224 Valkyrie cases Ive used. Fortunately, I had a stuck-case-remover kit on hand and was able to undo my mistake. Reports of similar results here and there have been noted in the online grapevine. They loaded smoothly and held up well over many reloads. The average weight of the sample cases was 115.1 grains, with an ES of 2.5 grains, and an SD of .7198 grain. I have been an early, yet trepidant, fan of the .224 Valkyrie, and have tested several rifles with many handloads. The quality of Starline brass is well known, so this is a welcome addition to our loading benches. Interestingly, both rifles shot most loads with varmint-weight bullets pretty well. So, I was anxious to try out the new Starline brass in the .224. Make sure to watch till the end. The extremely uniform primer pockets of the Starline cases made priming a breezeno crushed pellets, or goosey-loosey pockets here. Uniform case necks are important, and the Starline cases did well in this measurement too. Starline suggests doing this by either resizing (with regular case lube on the outside of the case) or running the case neck over the expander ball. In my testing, both rifles were usually accurate with 88- and 90-grain handloads, but each was somewhat sporadic. 0000015504 00000 n Hodgdon CFE 223 is a very fine spherical powder. (Above) Case weights were uniform, and similar capacities contribute to consistent ballistics. and 8 lb. There was no additional work needed to use the AR barrel, and gunsmith John Gallagher performed the needed modifications to the CZ 527. I am able to "real world" test at every range from 100-1000 yards so velocity is not important to me. But do you know how to properly use them? We expect some bolt-action PRS shooters might adopt the .224 Valkyrie. 0000042952 00000 n var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; Being a spherical powder, metering is superbly accurate. What It Is Not. This is available to consumers in 100-round bags. trends and tips from the leader in reloading. Two prototype bolt-action rifles were used for all loads. I think the round has tremendous potential, but if it is to be the be-all, end-all cartridge with heavyweight .22-caliber bullets, more moderately-priced rifles, like the bolt guns I used, need to enter the marketplace. 0000022377 00000 n 0000016556 00000 n Are there any AR15 uppers or even barrels for 22 PPC? At more than 3,000 fps, this is sure to send a prairie dog flying off a mound. Powerhouse .224 Valkyrie Features The cartridge case is arguably the best .224-caliber, AR-compatible design ever engineered. In other words, range estimation becomes less critical, even when it comes to tiny targets like small steel plates or prairie dogs. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. For. The load data contained on this site is intended for use with Barnes Bullets.
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